i was under the same impression as well; but no, all of the distros i tried on my new laptop (various different ubuntu flavors and some others i don’t remember) didn’t have it.
i’m capable to doing it myself, but fedora’s installer let me simply check a box for it.
overlap exists between Linux users and Hannah Montana fans.
the original fan base is now middle aged; there’s overlap simply for existing. lol
Funny enough I went to Fedora because it did all the pre-configuration to setup disk encryption unlike all of the Debian based distros I tried; not even Ubuntu had it.
… to satisfy the average dumbass using it
we all have to start somewhere
op was asking about linux specifically and neither sysvinit, upstart, openrc, or runit did more than booting
you must have missed this part:
it was criticized for overreach (as in it did more than its predecessor did).
systemd is only used to initiate booting of a system afaik and, in the past, it was criticized for overreach (as in it did more than its predecessor did).
now-a-days, it seems to be criticized for pre-complying with big brother like laws like age verification.
Also we’ve had attempts to microslopify Linux before, by the hands of Canonical and Red Hat.
the most recent example was done by the american gov’t instead of corporations when the kernel maintainers group kicked out russian developers.
bsd was originally a calfornia thing and california had made the first step to this reality; i bet big changes are coming their way.
i 100% agree with you and i’m sharing this to warn you that there are plenty in this are that will balk at the message that you’re trying to share.
don’t let them deter you; most of them are visitors from captured origins and will refuse to accept it as a result.
you’re probably best served by thrifting a recent wireless router that’s supported by freshtomato, openwrt or pfsense and doing your network stuff on that.
that’s a FANTASTIC idea! i’m gonna go do that.
thank you.
a government id requirement is the next logical step after its needful framework has been built as a result of the age verification laws that have already taken affect in the uk and california.
and because it’s a government law, it’s out of the systemd developer’s hands. linux is influenced heavily (if not outright controlled) by corporations like red hat who have to abide by the law if they want to continue operating and, in a likewise fashion, the systemd maintainers must also comport themselves if they want systemd to remain the dejour method that linux uses to initiate itself in those ecospheres.
do you think you’ll continue to use sysemd once it start embracing gov’t id requirements to use it?
i ask because i hold a similar position, but it’s adoption of the first step towards this end goal has me wondering if i should start looking for an alternative.
at this stage, a bigger case seems to be the right move for the future; what are the details of yours and how much?
that one brick and morter repair shop was selling an hp like this, but they refused to let me see it to confirm that it’s working.
also, the biggest take away for me here is that the case is the biggest restriction, so i’m now more amenable to larger cases.
same w mine on the 3rd day i received it; i updated using cli and it no longer booted.
i used to use debian heavily in the past, but switched to ubuntu because of kkkernel liveeeeeee patching.
now that i have to switch back because of age verification; i find myself wishing that debian has live patching so i can go back to it.
age verification is a world wide effort and opensuse will embrace it as much as redhat when it becomes law
I have targeted three distros, Artix, Void Linux, and endeavorOS. The first two do not use systemd at all and the third has stated they will not implement age attestation methods.
how did you find this out; not specifically for these three but in general?
i dug through my downloads because it bugged me that i couldn’t remember and it was ubuntu 24.04, kubuntu 25.10, fedora-kde 43, and mint 22.2 cinnamon that didn’t give the option and it was back in august.