Sure any idea on how?

For my part i have been talking about linux to everybody for the last 10 years, it made me very pleasant at parties, highly recommend!

The few people that actually listened tried it out, contacted me 5 times per day asking for tech support for half a week, then switched back because they did not like the shape of the icons in KDE.

Hands?

Debian

I ain’t your brah mate.

Look, I am not that antagonistic man, no need to be this riled up. My main issue is that I lurk these threads to help people with their linux issues to help adoption, but we really have a lot of threads were flatpak is the issue, you can check the history.

I am sorry you did check to see if the native one works and reproduced the issue, I somehow understood the exact contrary, I apologize.

The next time I will ask the user to reproduce te issue with the native version before I start my rant.

My usecase is to turn on my machine in the morning, edit some text files and run a browser and some command line tools. Then i turn it off in the evening, nothing special. I got no beef with wayland and especially nothing against systemd btw.

Is there any chanche that your reboot aversion is due to wayland’s issues with session restoration?

• the thread had no solution when I wrote, I assumed it was flatpak

• You seem to have found a reason now, and it indeed seems to be flatpak again

And the reason is always the same, flatpak runs as intended and breaks stuff by default, people find issues, write a thread here to ask for proper flags and settings for stuff that works natively out of the box 90% of the time when installed from the native repos in serious distros.

Which brings us back to my point: it solves the wrong problem for the wrong people. Provides sandboxing and isolation for people that use it as a covenient software source unaware of its quirks.

For those aware of them it is useless because they will know enough to do the isolation and sanboxing were it matters themselves.

To be fair you did some good work understanding what was happening, so I ask you: why do you use flatpak?

I am very confused as well.

Must be one of those new fangled ones with “advanced features” that do stuff like game overlay or aim assist or whatever the kids need their monitor to do these days

Stop using flatpack for open source stuff people, i will get tagged as the anti-flatpack guy but there is 3 threads a week for stuff like this.

Flatpack solves the wrong problem for the wrong people. Stop recommending it, stop using it and spread the word.

So you are telling someone like your dad to vibe code something in python?

Good software should be handled like that, try looking at how the kernel does things.

Sadly for gnome doing so does not make you automathically good software

This problem was already solved before AI, no need to hallucinate using 100x more compute and time than what is necessary

I said it and I’ll say it again.

Flatpack solves the wrong problem for the wrong people, stop recommending it, kill it with fire and spread the word.

Well it does take very little space until someone begins plugging stuff to it that keeps taking copies of the system.

I mean, that is not how it works? Sure there are a couple ms difference in latency but if you have that large of a speed difference it is more likely a routing or configuration issue. Pacman is 1 packet at a time by default on arch, but every procedure tells you to change that if possible.

Also your government is not the most open one when it comes to internet traffic, maybe they filter pacman more than apt?

Selling a 2013 pc for profit means scamming someone, especially counting the time you already invested. Just sain…

Congrats, you found the only debian that breaks regularly: testing

You can file a bug report and then install something that does not require you to debug early boot issues, like debian 13 or if you really want a rolling release arch or tubleweed.

My question is: why do you want the “smoothest brains” on linux? That won’t happen until OEMs are selling hardware with linux preinstalled, which they do on chromeos and android btw.

IMO blind adoption for the sake of it brings no benefit

I don’t like flatpack for the exact reason of this thread. The serious distros already do quite a good job in orchestrating their libs and other packages so that all works together.

Flatpack in theory is supposed, when well configured, to have little niche environments for some packages to work sandboxed and with their little special dependency chain.

In practice the knowledge and fiddling necessary to have this work correctly is akin to do it directly and safely in the main environment. People are encouraged to use flatpack but it is not a “just works” installer, unlike the default package manager of any serious distro.

You have critical data? What you need is a backup procedure. This is your first item to check off.

Once you can reliably backup and restore your critical data you will see that the os change will look a lot less scary.

The kernel tells any process using it to fuck off and remounts

All this is ironic, bazzite is often chosen for gaming, but as all these niche distros they have problems in stability which in this case reflects on exactly their core feature: gaming performance.

Stands yet again in demonstrating that gamers don’t actually care about performance, just in claiming that they have a top spec pc, if that thing does not perform like it should but just gives a workable experience it is actually fine