I think it’s unfair to say that’s the point of the rule on a foss project’s discussion forum

Political discourse online gets really fucking toxic really quickly 😅 often driven by entirely legitimate anger and hurt over the state of the world, but we can’t just pretend it’s all an evil conspiracy by big Ubuntu to silence us.

Folks on the internet consistently demonstrate through behaviour why “no politics” is almost always a rule anywhere where folks might perceive it to be off topic, whether one thinks it’s the correct ruling or not (it’s entirely valid to feel it should be allowed even though it brings out the worst in people, though I’m sure that would put incredible strain on moderators given the internet baseline of interpersonal compassion)

And the places online where folks do discuss it? Can quickly get extremely unpleasant, or develop an inescapable undercurrent of hostility that starts to permeate all other interactions on the platform.

Personally I think actually productive political conversation is almost always emotionally laborious, and it’s important to be able to step away from the political aspects of things and catch your breath, even though everything is political. But everything being political doesn’t mean it’s healthy for every conversation to be political, that’s a recipe for burnout and people acting like their worst selves, which is counter productive to pretty much any meaningful political goal.

Edit: why are y’all downvoting them for being out of the loop?? Lemmy get your shit together

They don’t- a moderator to an online ubuntu forum community (that recently became official) misapplied a rule about keeping things apolitical as meaning someone shouldn’t describe themselves as queer.

Ubuntu has made a statement correcting the interpretation made by the moderator

Thats kinda worse even than I thought :/

Thank you for sharing additional perspective I appreciate it!

Gotcha, when I looked I completely missed that

I think they’ve had a number of controversies over the years, but I think the big frustration people have at the moment is really just that snaps are kind of a crummy thing in several respects, don’t have an open source backend, and often don’t work as well as flatpaks (to my understanding)

The increasing commitment to going down that path is a big turn off for many, and disqualifying for some.

That being said, I have used and been happy with Ubuntu in the past. I think some of the dislike is just motivated by “thing popular”, especially since it’s so popular with folks new to linux who are still figuring things out

Ah, that’s fair, between ADHD and my sleep disorder my sense of time is pretty dysfunctional 😅

For me it was yesterday, I didn’t process that not even a day had passed for folks without my weird sleep schedule

I am very glad that you have found what makes you happy, keep using what you like- those icons hurt my soul

Just to clarify, not the person who downvoted you.

I’m a non technical user and have been using a plethora of extensions since my very first install with GNOME 😅. I use extensions to make it work currently as a media center, as well as just adjusting various aspects of the user experience.

I have a wonderful experience with customized GNOME, it serves me extremely well quite frankly. If I, a fairly non-technical (by linux standards) art and design nerd am having a great experience customizing things, I think it’s safe to say other people might also get value out of, and be happy with GNOME after having made some adjustments.

I generally stick fairly close to the original ux these days, but I’ve straight up never used or wanted to use GNOME with no extensions or modifications. Which from hearing other people talk about it, I think is actually extremely common 😅

There are lots of ways in which modified GNOME is an excellent experience 😅

Its good to acknowledge that lack of customization is a central tradeoff of its design, but if they don’t know whether what they need is possible, it’s entirely valid for them to ask. Telling them not to do what they need and use something else seems unlikely to be a helpful contribution to the discussion.

For all they know there’s an easy way to do exactly what they need, or a well maintained extension that will fill their usecase perfectly. From other replies it seems like they may have already gotten a really useful answer

I don’t use jellyfin but these seems cool as fuck…

That’s totally valid!

Hope you have a lovely day 😊

I was gonna say, I love Futo keyboard, and use it quite happily, but it’s worth remembering that it’s source available rather than open source

Still a great project though! I’m typing on it right now :)

People who find computers useful should be using computers.

This weird idea from some linux users that only people who see their computer as a hobby and have mastery over them should be allowed to use them, and that computers should be designed exclusively around the needs of computer-as-hobby users, is absolutely nuts.

Its a tool. It should be designed to be useful as possible to anyone who needs such a tool.

Sincerely,
Another linux user who cares about UI/UX and is tired of this kind of junk. It’s a dumb argument, let’s all stop making it please. Linux supports all your “technical user” wildest dreams, let the average people have their features and design considerations too.

Cute!

Feels furry-core lol

That’s certainly a cool thought!

As someone who doesn’t follow this stuff closely, I appreciate the clarification!

Its nice to hear from someone with more hands on experience. Hope you have a good one :)

Aw neat! Thanks for sharing 😊

Big agree. If you’re reading this and could spare a couple bucks for some of the projects you use most often, maybe think about donating 😊

Thanks for the additional context!

Fuck yeah!