If the Firefox thing is a real pain, do consider the librewolf project, since it won’t save your session every time, but also has ublock origin already set up by default.

Remember that even if you’re unsure some software is for you or not, just try the flatpak. One command to install, and one command to remove if you didn’t like it. Because it’s containerised you don’t need to worry about it leaving behind unused libraries or cluttering your system with leftover bits.

Do you need Timeshift on an opensuse system? I haven’t used Leap, but had a Tumbleweed install for years which has Snapper pre installed.

You can install btrfs-assistant to help you manage snapper. You could have it create backups of your /home, then you can rollback if you think you’ve messed up too much.

The firefox thing seems just firefox behaviour to me. Does it not do that in Windows? But you could use a firefox based browser that respects privacy more. Librewolf and zen browser you can install via Flathub or an appimage from their website. Librewolf at least will by default end and forget a session when you close the browser.

(FYI - best way to deal with appimages is to install Gearlever from flathub, then when you download an appimage you open gearlever and “install” the appimage. Gearlever is just for better integrating appimages into your system but also for keeping them updated).

My last Tumbleweed install I ran from 2019 to 2023. During this time flatpaks got a lot better and flathub got a lot more programs available. Now I use flatpaks as my first option for software, unless I think it’s something that will give me problems being containerised.

Opensuse 1-click… you’re right, those can be a pain. You often end up adding additional repos, and it’s never fun trying to clean up the problems that come with that after a while.

My suggestion is search for “opensuse ‘programs name’” and see if they maintain it in their repository first. (You can use Opensuse’s preinstalled Yast to search for it even to keep it simple). If no, look for it on flathub, remember to look to see when the flatpak was last built, in case it’s been unmaintained for a while. Failing that, check the developers page (usually GitHub or gitlab or similar) to see if they have recommended steps for install.

I didn’t think you made stuff up. I thought you were making an interesting point at first (why I asked for more detail), but then you rambled on vaguely and didn’t answer my question at all.

I’ll go look into ARM somewhere else.

I was asking about you, because you made the comparison.

What processor are you considering a typical x86_64, and also what is your use case?

I’m seeing a screenshot of lxqt Labwc and I’m seriously considering trying it.

Relax, mate. I’m not trying to take away your Windows Server. Just talking about how bad windows is from end user perspective… absolute rubbish, barely usable, nearly impossible to troubleshoot.

I’m glad you get along with it from your IT professional/server admin role.

Openbox was great. I learned Linux using fluxbox, and moved over to openbox down the track because it was familiar. I stayed with it until about 2015 I think.

Labwc could be a similar wayland experience (although it’s not their mission statement), but I haven’t been able to try it yet.

Good call. I’ve had to use Windows on work computers for the last 15 years, and I think it’s insane when people talk about it being simple or just working. I feel like I’m being gaslighted by people who maybe don’t know Linux very well so they decided Windows is good actually.

It appears to be all held together with string and ready to crumble randomly.

We keep one Windows laptop in our house so my partner can use some proprietary software she needs for work. When something goes wrong we just reimage it with the HP support tool because otherwise trying to fix it is like pulling your own teeth out.

Dropping the name of the show early in the conversation works better.

This show is readily available in torrents, where the community has curated from the highest quality sources available.

Ah, the ancient ritual persists.

And if ever unsure, look up Firefox on flathub; every app page shows the command line instructions for installing and for running it.

Is your information applicable to the nouveau drivers? I’d understood they’re many years behind in performance and capability but blender has never been in my use case.

Ha, yes, I remember pretty much the entire Linux community dropped KDE 4. What a time for a rebranding.

I like to think those internal communications were “goddamnit this torrents got no fucking seeders too!”

They blocked Pirate sites here in Australia years ago, and as far as I’m aware it affected nobody. Everyone who knows how to torrent already knows how to get by it.

I think Slitaz is still around, I always liked that for older machines, I was going to try it on an AMD C-50 laptop I pulled out of storage recently, except I don’t have time for messing around.

Yeah, any pointing device is fine. And keyboard shortcuts, ask easy to setup since it’s just .xml.

I mainly mean, in comparison to a tiling WM which is intended to be key commands and minimise mouse use, Openbox is based around stacking and menus. It works be just as easy as KDE or Gnome to use keys.

It’s nothing special, it’s just what I like. I learned Linux using fluxbox, and later moved to Openbox because it was more feature complete. It’s a window manager, stacking-style, mouse-centric unlike Sway, i3, Hyprland, dwm etc.

All config is done through a handwritten xml, but there exist gui tools to help edit/write all or parts of this for you.

No panel by default, so you’ll need to find your own. You just right-click the desktop and you get a menu.

It’s called a pipe menu, and it’s been nearly 20 years since I learned about it so I’ll do my best to remember how it works. The pipe menu dynamically changes as bash scripts are activated on mouse movement. So pointing at one thing in the menu would activate a script which triggers the next part of the menu to appear.

The hook is that openbox and fluxbox are very fast and use very little system resources.

Openbox is considered to be bug-free and hasn’t had any commits in nearly 10 years I believe. I think openbox is still being used in the lxqt suite, so maybe the default for Lubuntu? (if that’s still a thing!)

My only experience with a Fedora-based distro at all has been Bazzite that I had on a htpc for about 12 months, and the use case doesn’t really let me compare to Aeon. Similar to Aeon though, I had no problems with it during that time.

I had Aurora on a thumbstick because I wanted to try it, but never got around to it.

I was hoping something would happen with Kalpa, but I don’t believe anything will. I think if it was ever there, that with be best for me. I’ve moved to cachy OS mainly because I needed to get certain things working that were only packaged in appimage- BUT I believe I could have worked it out in Aeon by fiddling around with distrobox. I was going to test out Aurora for this and just stumbled into cachy OS instead.

I’m not sure if I would go back to Aeon now, as I’m back on KDE again I don’t think I want to look at gnome for a while.

But for my tastes, I think once there is a mature wayland-based Openbox replacement (eyes on labwc) I’d look around to see which distro works best with that. I’d imagine it could be Tumbleweed but I’d also watch how well it works on something extremely stable maybe Debian-based.

Nothing is getting me really excited about Linux right now, not the way Ubuntu did in the 2000s, or how Crunchbang did, and not the way Tumbleweed did. Which is probably for the best because I don’t have time for tinkering or system maintenance, and that’s what makes the immutable distros shine.