Do you think you would have those issues that you are reporting if you were using AMD or Intel GPUs?

Problem is not Bazzite or Linux, problem is Nvidia. If we need to be honest, we should avoid Nvidia.

I feel that “works” is a very broad term. It can work but doesn’t mean that it will perform even or better in a good amount of games compared to Nvidia on Windows or AMD in Linux or Windows. Issues depends on specific games that one plays, one may be playing games that aren’t prone for those issues reported.

How do you handle the closed source applications installations for your dad without friction?

I had some good rate of satisfaction (anecdotal empirical and personal) with Silverblue. Good support for UKI + Secure Boot + TPM2 + SELinux. All of that transparent to end user, and we can roll back stuff quite easy with the Atomic philosophy.

Those were experiments conducted on Lenovo and Dell laptops that have good Linux support with continuous firmware updates via fwupd.

Personally, I use Arch, btw. Not a big fan on the relation of companies with distros.

“In KDE Linux, we build the base system out of Arch packages, but freeze the contents and take responsibility for the result being functional; we don’t offload responsibility onto the user.”

Is this the same that Manjaro does?

It was just a just a joke. Slackware is a dinosaur.

What about Slackware? Not popular anymore?

Are you sure that the DX12 performance loss is already addressed on Nvidia GPUs? Do you have a source?

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/directx12-performance-is-terrible-on-linux/303207

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1nr4tva/does_the_nvidia_dx12_bug_20ish_performance_loss/

They are the proprietary drivers from NVIDIA that should now “just work” across kernel upgrades (like AMD has forever).

Are you sure that is how it works for AMD in Linux?

I’d go with Linux, no matter what, but this seem exactly why I feel that we should be more clear. People may be building some PCs out there to use Linux for gaming and buying Nvidia because others keep saying that everything is smooth sails with Nvidia. A lot of it is working now but there are some downsides and the recommendation is to go with AMD if you can.

Thanks. That is what I thought but is good to confirm if we are not missing something.

That is a fair reason and a good remind actually. Thanks!

There isn’t a global 30% performance loss. There are specific games/configurations that have performance issues and bugs, but it isn’t all games.

That was not what I said. I don’t recall saying that there is a global 30% performance loss. I’m sorry if I gave margin for that interpretation.

There are always bugs and performance issues that appear and get fixed, that’s the nature of Linux.

This one in particular seem to be taking some time for Nvidia to fix.

This is not the case now, NVIDIA works without major issues.

I don’t think I was implying that it doesn’t work. My point is that for certain games that relies on certain technologies the Nvidia drivers are not optimized to reach Windows level or even AMD level on Linux for equivalents cards. It may worth reviewing the Nvidia forum link that I posted first.

I still give the benefit of the doubt that I may be missing something and need to learn better something although I’m not following your reasoning completely.

Finally, I just want to also point that I don’t have strings attached to any GPU maker. I wish we had more options but it sounds that if we want something reasonable with good open source driver support for many different types of combinations of games, hardware and technology, AMD seems our only choice in Linux given this incidental bad performance present on DX12 combined with Nvidia GPUs on Linux.

So are you saying that those are false claims?

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/directx12-performance-is-terrible-on-linux/303207

Sorry the Reddit links: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1nr4tva/does_the_nvidia_dx12_bug_20ish_performance_loss/

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/179t3zi/i_dont_think_this_has_been_talked_about_enough_if/

As you can see people report this from 2 years ago and also 14 days ago.

I agree with that, because there is no offering from AMD to compete with the high-end Nvidia absolute performance GPU.

To be clear, AMD has much less performance loss if any. In some cases surpassing the performance in Windows on those same games.

So is it the game’s fault? Mostly no. The performance gap is not due to poorly written games, it’s about:

• how efficiently DX12 gets translated to Vulkan
• how optimized the Vulkan driver is for gaming
• how much driver-level work is done per platform

Games that are poorly optimized on Windows will also mostly likely perform badly on Linux.

This is the biggest hurdle nowadays with Nvidia:

NVIDIA GPUs generally experience a performance penalty when running DirectX 12 games on Linux, with reports indicating a drop of 15-30% compared to Windows. This is largely attributed to driver optimizations and the overhead from using translation layers like Proton and Wine.

This seems, stink and feel like dogshit

I wish I’d have gone with Jellyfin when I migrated from Plex. I’m on Emby, it has a few features that I like that are not available in Jellyfin.

I have 5 different banking apps, all working without an issue. Some I may had to “explore protection mode compatibility” but it is not the rule and is a quick tweak.