cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/34255100
Thought I’d create a distinct thread from the previous one asking about daily use, because I really do want to hear more on people’s pain points. Great to know people are generally sounding pretty positive in those posts who recently switched, but want to know your difficulties as well! This way old and new users can share their thoughts, hopefully to inspire a respectful discussion.
Most popular games still don’t work.
And stuff randomly breaks. Most recently turning on a Bluetooth mic crashes gnome.
Apparently there’s a fix coming but insane that stuff like this can be broken for a whole month.
Most popular games still don’t work.
I’ve been running Bazzite on my main PC since October (I have a bad habit of tinkering with my Linux installs to death so I opted for immutable so I’m less likely to break it) and of all of the weird and obscure windows software I’ve installed, all has worked flawlessly including funky model railroad track planning software and some somewhat obscure simulator games. I also have some games from the 90s that haven’t worked on modern Windows in years run flawlessly. Heck even Sims via EA’s launcher runs flawlessly (if not better because I can minimize it from fullscreen, something it can’t do on Windows since the DX11 update)
Literally the only thing I’ve found that I can’t run is anything requiring Ubisoft’s launcher. The furthest I got is to about 30% through downloading Anno 1800 before it crashed and refused to run the launcher again. I can’t help but suspect they intentionally broke compatibility because that would be very on-brand for them, but you never know. Kinda sad because I wanted to play an Anno game that’s new enough to not have gotten a disc release but whatever I have plenty of other games I can play
Are all of those games having kernel anti cheat? If not which games you are having issues with?
Not op but last time I tried (recently around 2 weeks ago), the performance in Le Mans Ultimate was terrible. And I couldn’t get Crew Chief to work with it.
I got my sum racing stuff working(not the rev lights on the wheel though), got the game running, but performance was 30-90 FPS and jumping all over the place. In comparison to windows with the similar settings, that runs 100-160fps even though it’s with a larger number of visible cars(62 instead of the 30 I had on Linux).
I had Nobara installed, 5700x3D with a Nvidia 4080, I really wish I could switch but currently I would give up too much, Le Mans Ultimate and EAs WRC are currently large portions of my hobbies, and WRC has anti cheat that doesn’t work.
You might wan to checkout the proton version from glorious egg roll on github. It has a load of improvements.
I already used that(specifically this version), it is the only way to get the game to actually load.
Most popular games still don’t work.
Not according to the steam deck verified list…
What distro is that?
Bluetooth headsets. Still can’t have sound and microphone at the same time, which isn’t great.
That’s a limitation of Bluetooth itself afaik, when bidirectional audio is active and the headset goes into “hands-free mode” you get a shit bitrate. Windows behaves the same, not sure about AirPods on Mac
That is true, but I think there are some newer protocols that support higher fidelity.
Also Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (for example) was shipped with pipewire instead of pulse audio which just made the handsfree profile (aka low fidelity bidirectional audio) work out of the box. Have been using it without significant problems since that release.
Yeah, a TRRS jack :D
I’m not aware of any big improvements, even BT6.0 is the same afaik. All the fancy audio codecs don’t matter in the handsfree mode
So far the switch has been fantastic. Its just taking time to write new scripts and such as I port my old windows workflows over to Linux.
The one thing I haven’t gotten working is SteamVR. I’ve only been able to launch into the steam vr home and it puts me underneath the floor. I can teleport move around but can’t interact with things and it leaves me under the floor.
VR. Using CachyOS, a new 9060xt 16gb, and a Quest2. When I can get steam VR to launch and connect at all its extremely choppy and stuttery to the point its unusable. Worked fine on the same hardware and network before switching from windows.
Im pretty sure the Index works great with Linux right?
Meta headsets are largely shit. I have a quest 2 and I got sick of how invasive and maliciously coded it was so it just sits now. I dont need zucc seeing inside my house.
Yeah I only have that quest 2 because it was free. I would like to only stream PCVR titles to it to minimize meta usage. At least until the steam frame comes out.
Gotcha
Can’t mount flashdrives since the last Ubuntu update…
Any clues in the dmesg output?
I have not really had anything. I do have a thing where my mouse goes wonky but I think its the my touchpad and not linux.
On my specific setup (5700x3d, 5700xt) with the Vive gen 1 I can’t get it to run VR nicely. There is huge performance hitches compared to Windows. Only VR is like this most my non VR games see performance gains across the board.
Also, steamvr takes prohibitively long to load and frequently crashes. Half-Life, Alyx can’t get past a certain point in the game on Linux but runs past just fine on Windows. This feels like just a Linux driver issue. I’ve tried several distributions with the same problems.
On a surface level, it works fine for me, i installed pop os a few months ago and i’m happy. There is a lot i haven’t really figured out yet, and i don’t know if i ever will or have to. There is an UEFI update that has been pending ever since i installed it. It says i may have to hit the power button multiple times to install it, no idea what that even means, and i don’t really want to read 2 pages of documentation to make it work. Most peripherals i have are straight up not supported on linux. They work, but i have to use windows to configure them. I tried to install a razer software for linux, but the hurdles i had to go through and the amount of: now go to this website to install this flatpak is kinda nuts, just for it not to work at the end. I still don’t really know what a flatpak is, so that doesn’t help. On one of my mice, the muddle mouse button just straight up doesn’t work on linux. Every other works, it works on windows, this just doesn’t.
The weirdest thing that sometimes happens is that i play a game and i think when i plug in my headset or mouse, something freaks out and i can still use M1 to shoot for example, but i can’t use M1 in the game menu. Or any menu at all. I can use M2 to put the PC to sleep and then it works again.
I tried to use Wine to try some windows programs to see if they work, but i don’t even know where to start, i installed them, and everything looks like it should just work (or not) but it just does nothing.
I’ve been a linux user since 2010s more or less. For some reason on my new tuxedo laptop with mint installed + qtile it sometimes freezes or logs me out. Super frustrating, and don’t know how to debug it. But mostly I’m happy with my setup.
Can’t stream peacock to watch my motorsports. Resolved by unsubbing but I still wanna watch sometimes.
Peacock doesn’t work in the browser?
Probably not if you use Firefox.
Correctamundo. I use chrome to stream all those types of services. Waterfox for everything else. Even agent switcher doesn’t help.
My only pain, since last year, is the horrible amount of tweaking needed to have flameshot work in Gnome. I have not found a single screen shot app that even comes close in terms of features and UI.
My bazzite PC in my living room stopped recognizing the Bluetooth built into my motherboard which is annoying but easily worked around with a USB Bluetooth dongle.
Turn off the power supply, wait a minute, turn back on
Its not a Linux Problem, happens with MBS in general
Apps, always with apps, most app in ubuntu store are not the latest version, nor reviewed or crypto signed for safety. Then you still have to deal with RPM or Deb or flatpack …
There is no good frontend for the clamav antivirus that is maintained! yes we may not need an antivirus but if you want one, you have to go command line. As an old ace developer, this is not an issue for me, but yeah at home I don’t want to use that knowledge nor can recommend linux to newbies.
Maybe a easy to use frontend for docker app is missing (nono I use portainer) but something more easier like the defunct CasaOS for beginner to install decentralized apps is also something that could promote Linux a lot. Ubuntu could also hide docker app in its store, just telling users that they should not let their notebook or computer go to sleep if they install server app like immich or jellyfin
Using Mint for some years now, there are two main pain points for me. Both do not stop me from using Mint as my daily operating system, but they reduce convenience.
Default package repositories contain software versions that are long outdated (e.g. tmux, claws mail, neovim, libreoffice). Although this can usually be fixed by custom ppa or manual installation it decreases the benefits of a default package repository and causes additional maintenance efforts.
Laptop hardware / driver issues:
- When using nvidia graphics driver, FN+Fx keys do not change display brightness (although brightness hud is shown). When using xorg driver instead, these work, but the input for unlocking my luks volume at boot freezes and I cannot enter the password.
- FN+Fx does not enable/disable touchpad. I was able to fix this with a custom script and keybinding.
- Keyboard lighting cannot be controlled by OpenRGB and some other tools I tried, because the specific keyboard is not supported (yet?).
Handful of Windows desktop apps that don’t work well on Wine - WeChat desktop, LINE app desktop. I do tons of copy pasting of mocked up screenshots and stuff. It just doest work as well as in windows.
