Sites are not physical. Sites are not locked at signup. You are misunderstanding how Craigslist (and others) work.
What this page is saying is “If you post in the Berlin section, and want to offer it in Los Angeles, you need to make a new post”.
You don’t need a different account, a different server, or to otherwise associate with a different region.
I’d be happy to explain if there is a part here that is confusing, I’m really not sure what you are not understanding on this.
I’m also not putting down the idea of a federated marketplace, I would love it.
I just think its a bad design to rely on a server setting that users have no control over. What happens if that host moves to an entirely different region? They have to keep serving that region? They can change it and all those listings are invalid?
So you are only complaining that accounts are not centralized? The entire Fediverse works like that and I don’t really see an issue with that.
And why would a host change the location for their “Classified site for Berlin” instance? That doesn’t make any sense, since it is location specific by design.
No, I’m complaining that the server determines a user and items location.
You don’t need centralization for that. If I’m making a post, I should be able to set the location for the item at that point - this information is federated, so then the user’s server is irrelevant, only the location the user sets is relevant.
That is what makes this a bad design. It has nothing to do with centralization.
Because the ability to post is locked to a server’s region.
As you said, I can’t go in and browse the United States listings. Why? What technical reason is there to prevent me, as a user, from wanting to join?
NOT as an admin. As a user.
Lets think of this like mastodon and hashtags for a second. If the hashtag were a location, why would I need to join aus.social to see the hashtag location for Australia? Why would I need to join mstdn.ca to see the hashtags for Canada?
I think the flohmarkt design inherently works the opposite of other federated designs. It is limiting by design, limiting server use by region, rather than what a user is choosing to follow.
I’m concerned I’m not explaining something properly, so if there is a part that isn’t making sense to you, let me know.
Why would a classified site for Berlin allow you to post ads for Chicago? Just use a classifed site for Chicago 🤷
And no, the Federation model of Flohmarkt is like Mastodon, Lemmy is the odd one out, but also Lemmy does not allow starting communities on other servers. You need a local account for that.
Why would a classified site for Berlin allow you to post ads for Chicago? Just use a classifed site for Chicago 🤷
Because the same user regularly travels to both. A separate post would be absolutely fine, but I shouldn’t need an entirely different site for that. Its a listing.
And no, the Federation model of Flohmarkt is like Mastodon, Lemmy is the odd one out, but also Lemmy does not allow starting communities on other servers. You need a local account for that.
I do not need to create an account on a different server to post on that server.
I only need the one account. I am not blocked from posting in lemmy.ca because I live in the US, I’m not blocked from posting in midwest.social because I don’t live in the midwest.
Yes you need an account from the specific Mastodon instance to post on that Mastodon instance.
But anyways, that is besides the point. A classified listing is by design lioation specific. All your argument seems to boil down to is that you are annoyed that you don’t have centralized accounts to log into different classified pages 🤷
Yes you need an account from the specific Mastodon instance to post on that Mastodon instance.
That was a Lemmy comment, but my mastadon post goes to all mastodon instances, regardless of region. Filtering or subscription is by hashtag or user. I do not get region-locked by my server to make a post, to read a post, to interact with a post.
But anyways, that is besides the point. A classified listing is by design lioation specific. All your argument seems to boil down to is that you are annoyed that you don’t have centralized accounts to log into different classified pages 🤷
No, that is not my complaint.
I, as a user, cannot use this solution. I have no way to use it, as a user, because the server determines region, not the user. I, as a user, have no way to interact with flohmarkt or my local or regional community, for reasons of a design decision that is not relevant in any way to a user or a listing.
I, as a user, can’t use flohmarkt, because the design of it does not allow me to. An arbitrary, unnecessary, forced limitation. Simple as that.
Sites are not physical. Sites are not locked at signup. You are misunderstanding how Craigslist (and others) work.
What this page is saying is “If you post in the Berlin section, and want to offer it in Los Angeles, you need to make a new post”.
You don’t need a different account, a different server, or to otherwise associate with a different region.
I’d be happy to explain if there is a part here that is confusing, I’m really not sure what you are not understanding on this.
I’m also not putting down the idea of a federated marketplace, I would love it.
I just think its a bad design to rely on a server setting that users have no control over. What happens if that host moves to an entirely different region? They have to keep serving that region? They can change it and all those listings are invalid?
It isnt a good design.
So you are only complaining that accounts are not centralized? The entire Fediverse works like that and I don’t really see an issue with that.
And why would a host change the location for their “Classified site for Berlin” instance? That doesn’t make any sense, since it is location specific by design.
No, I’m complaining that the server determines a user and items location.
You don’t need centralization for that. If I’m making a post, I should be able to set the location for the item at that point - this information is federated, so then the user’s server is irrelevant, only the location the user sets is relevant.
That is what makes this a bad design. It has nothing to do with centralization.
Why is it bad design that you have a location specific page where you post location specific classified ads? Thats how all of them work.
Because the ability to post is locked to a server’s region.
As you said, I can’t go in and browse the United States listings. Why? What technical reason is there to prevent me, as a user, from wanting to join?
NOT as an admin. As a user.
Lets think of this like mastodon and hashtags for a second. If the hashtag were a location, why would I need to join aus.social to see the hashtag location for Australia? Why would I need to join mstdn.ca to see the hashtags for Canada?
I think the flohmarkt design inherently works the opposite of other federated designs. It is limiting by design, limiting server use by region, rather than what a user is choosing to follow.
I’m concerned I’m not explaining something properly, so if there is a part that isn’t making sense to you, let me know.
Why would a classified site for Berlin allow you to post ads for Chicago? Just use a classifed site for Chicago 🤷
And no, the Federation model of Flohmarkt is like Mastodon, Lemmy is the odd one out, but also Lemmy does not allow starting communities on other servers. You need a local account for that.
Because the same user regularly travels to both. A separate post would be absolutely fine, but I shouldn’t need an entirely different site for that. Its a listing.
I do not need to create an account on a different server to post on that server.
I only need the one account. I am not blocked from posting in lemmy.ca because I live in the US, I’m not blocked from posting in midwest.social because I don’t live in the midwest.
Yes you need an account from the specific Mastodon instance to post on that Mastodon instance.
But anyways, that is besides the point. A classified listing is by design lioation specific. All your argument seems to boil down to is that you are annoyed that you don’t have centralized accounts to log into different classified pages 🤷
That was a Lemmy comment, but my mastadon post goes to all mastodon instances, regardless of region. Filtering or subscription is by hashtag or user. I do not get region-locked by my server to make a post, to read a post, to interact with a post.
No, that is not my complaint.
I, as a user, cannot use this solution. I have no way to use it, as a user, because the server determines region, not the user. I, as a user, have no way to interact with flohmarkt or my local or regional community, for reasons of a design decision that is not relevant in any way to a user or a listing.
I, as a user, can’t use flohmarkt, because the design of it does not allow me to. An arbitrary, unnecessary, forced limitation. Simple as that.