New server has been acquired. Debian 13 has been installed.

GS308EP switches have been acquired and installed.

Now, I’m working to migrate to the new machine. 3 1/2 years ago when I started futzing with Docker, I sorta followed guides and guessed, abused it trying to make it do things it wasn’t designed for, and flipped switches I likely shouldn’t have flipped, so the set up is more than a little shabby.

As a result, I’ll likely end more redeploying than migrating the containers.

So rather than go forward with Docker blindly, I want to reassess whether I shouldn’t look into Proxmox, LXC, or Podman instead of Docker, or maybe something else entirely?

Work is just about done dumping ESX for Nutanix, but both of those seem overkill for my needs.

Of course the forums for any of the solutions make their own out to be the best thing since sliced bread and the others useless, so I’m hoping to get a more nuanced answer here.

  • koala@programming.devEnglish
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    12 hours ago

    Came in here to mention Incus if no one had.

    I love it. I have three “home production” servers running Proxmox, but mostly because Proxmox is one of very few LTS/comercially-supported ways to run Linux in a supported way with root (and everything else on ZFS). And while its web UI is still a bit clunky in places, it comes in handy some times.

    However, Incus automation is just… superior. incus launch --vm images:debian/13 foo, wait a few seconds then incus exec foo -- bash and I’m root on a console of a ready-to-go Debian VM. Without --vm, it’s a lightweight LXC container. And Ansible supports running commands through incus exec, so you can provision stuff WITHOUT BOTHERING TO SET UP ANYTHING.

    AND, it works remotely without fuss, so I can set up an Incus remote on a beefy server and spawn VMs nearly transparently. + incus file pull|push to transfer files.

    I’m kinda pondering scripting removal of the Proxmox bits from a Proxmox install, so that I just keep their ZFS support and run Incus on top.

    • SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.ukEnglish
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      3 hours ago

      Hmm, I setup a Proxmox machine a while back because, well, all the cool kids seemed to do it - and plenty of “support” on youtube

      I found Incus and it just seemed better, but it was harder to find info on (back then) and seemed a little unready

      Now, I regret not sticking with my gut instinct as I’ve got to basically rip out Proxmox to get Incus in, which means all my VMs are prisoners (and us: 1 VM is Home Assistant!)

      So, do you know if it’s possible to migrate my VMs across to Incus, or is it literally wipe drive, start again?

      (Obviously the data in each VM can be backed up & restored into new VMs)