sidenote, are memes allowed? it doesn’t say anything about them not being allowed, but I don’t see anybody posting any 🤷♀️
Nice meme 👍
I miss eMule. 😢
Last I checked it still works.
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If you’re not in a hurry, that is.
be me
born in 2005
used to use steam unlocked
torrent
is bisexual
the meme is partly correct i guess :3
TIL those born in 2005 are 20 now.
Well, not “learned,” but you know what I mean. I feel old :(
:3
I feel you, my Steam account turned 20 this month!
I hear if you torrent you get a nastygram from your ISP. Meanwhile, I hear if you find a site that offers to stream it for free, nothing bad happens. Also I hear that Yandex gives better results for such sites than Google or DDG/Bing.
Depends what you torrent. Torrenting exposes your IP to all the other peers.
I hear VPNs exist. Though that could be a rumour.
it’s slopsay
For now they still do…
I hear rumors being eastern european negates the nastygram, but that’s just a rumour.
Ukrainian here, pretty eastern European. ISP doesn’t make enough money to care.
Lithuanian ISPs also really don’t care the worst that happened is the government shutdown a film site but it is back online.
If you’re in Canada those nastygrams are merely scare tactics, generally.
And i live in a country that doesnt give a shit about piracy ,:)
If only I were in Canada 😭 so free it hurts here in the US
Wait, is torrenting actually dying out?
Not sure of statistics. But imo judging by the picture of media as of today, torrenting is either growing or changing into usenet.
It’s still somewhat big in certain regions, even younger people torrent (although streaming piracy is more popular).
i kid you not my roommate watched a movie someone posted on Twitter
Nah, not until all of the GenXers and Xennials die out at least
People just have some random site they found on tiktok
2001 baby here with a home ubuntu server running Plex + Jellyfin, *arr suite, qbittorrent and slskd in docker, and a few TB on my favourite private trackers. I’m an outlier for sure, I don’t know anyone else my age that even knows what 1337x is
Hey now, I’m younger than that and I know how to do both things lol
But do you know about slsk?
Heard of it but didn’t use it. Tbf I wasn’t really interested in pirating music as much as other media
To each their own, but for anyone else reading, try Nicotine+ on desktop, or Seeker on Android (it’s on the izzydroid repo)
Nicotine+ is dope
They can’t even eat Hot Chip? 🤯
in this economy?
They can’t even drink Driz Izzle.
It does feel like zoomies and kids in general have lost a lot of technical knowledge when it comes to computers.
There was a short while when everyone had computers at home, and we became skilled with them because we grew up with them. But those computers were pretty quickly replaced with tablets and phones, leaving the majority of younger generations with much less computer experience.
Because of the locked-down nature and simplified UI design of mobile platforms, they weren’t able to learn skills like navigating file systems or the many tools in document and art programs they would have found on PC.
Rather than being an edutainment tool, mobile devices have offered cheap dopamine hits and predatory monetization. The fact that we know this and do nothing to correct it is incredibly sad.
We’re doomed to help our parents AND our kids.
cries in millennial
most yes, some no. Some are fucking geniuses
also, my blame is 1000% on the schools. They lock down computers so much the button to make a FOLDER was disabled… in highschool
Funny, I remember being in middle school and getting detention for playing a RS private server called hackscape, clearly I was intending to hack the school.
Meanwhile I found the network drive and constantly deleted a bullys progress in our keyboarding course lmao, they never figured that one out.
Speak for urselves lul (I dk how to seed tho)
Just let the torrent keep going after you’re done
Tried that but for some reason it doesn’t seed :3
That means you either have a shit isp or a misconfigured router.
If you move or delete the files it would break it
Yeah I could guess that, but no just sitting around it either doesn’t upload anything or uploads and absurdly small amount (less than 50mb)
Yeah I see the same thing and I self host a seedbox that has hundreds of seeding torrents. Some torrents do get some seeding action but most never upload anything. Never figured out why but some private trackers give you points towards your up/down ratio the longer you seed so I just roll with that ¯\(ツ)/¯
I gave up on private trackers a while ago. Nothing I’ve ever been looking for was obscure enough to warrant putting up with their bullshit rules.
Ah, yeah that’s fair. I’m on a few but primarily use TorrentLeech which is more relaxed about things. To be honest though, torrents are my fallback anyway and most of my downloads are done via Usenet
Only private tracker I use is MyAnonymouse, they’ve got all the books/audiobooks anyone could ever need, which I have had a really hard time finding on public trackers. Their rules are super lenient as well.
Private trackers are the WoW raiding guilds of piracy xD
If it was a popular torrent with a lot of seeders, it was probably still working but you never got selected. Could also happen when it was the opposite. If there was like three seeders and no peers, when you finish you’re just sitting there with the other folks with no one to seed to.
Probably an issue with connecting to peers or trackers. One common issue is not having the port forwarded properly at your router.
Solution: use Linux and hardlinks
If you don’t have a port forwarded for your torrent client, then only the people that do will be able to download from you. Unfortunately, most VPN providers don’t support port forwarding.
PIA does
As does Proton VPN.
And AirVPN. They also have the most stable servers in my experience. With other providers I need to change the wireguard config I use for my qbittorrent docker every few months because they get painfully slow, with AirVPN the same server stays usable forever in my experience
TorGuard VPN also works somewhat fine in my experience, even if setting up port forwarding with custom wireguard config is a bit complicated there, but they frequently have insanely good sales, and if you buy a plan on sale you can renew it for the sale price after it ends, instead of having to renew for full price or having to wait for the next sale
I am not sure if I would trust either of these providers if I was doing something really illegal and trying to hide from the government \ law enforcement, but for something like torrenting they should provide more than enough protection against copyright notices
make sure your torrent client is bound to your VPN interface before seeding also :)
Depends on the country tho, in some countries you will not have legal issues
true true
Two things. 1. Already mentioned, you need to be connectable. Torrent client port needs opened on router admin panel. 2. You can only seed if there is another user(s) actively downloading that data. And if you’re 1 of many seeders, you’re only uploading a little bit
Theres a lot more to it but thats a good high level overview
Let them be the fodder for the authorities
It’s the other way around, torrents are monitored, downloads on webpages are not (unless they use P2P streaming)
Maybe for public trackers, I’ve never had an issue on private trackers. But pirate streaming sites are taken down fairly frequently
the magic word here is “HTTPS”. Prior to encrypted downloads being the norm, it was trivial for your ISP (and presumably, the feds) to see what sites you were visiting and what you downloaded from them. With HTTPS, at best it’s possible to know what site you’re communicating with and how much data you’ve sent to and received from them, but not what the data actually is. (Unless of course the site’s logs get seized, which could contain records of which files were requested by which IP addresses)
The big difference is that with torrents you also upload data to other peers, which is what fucks you copyright-wise.
Also remember kids, if you’re not in the US throw those DMCA claims in the trash
If you’re in the EU, downloading without uploading is also illegal, just hard to track for the copyright firms.
I don’t know if this meme is fully ironic, but kind of strange to think “torrenting” is considered the OG piracy method now.
Yeah, I imagine to younger folks it feels like what usenet felt like to me when I was their age. Mystical land of unknown loot, if you know how to get there
For me personally, the OG pirating was buying bootleg VHSs/CDs/DVDs. But torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.
torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.
IRC? Napster? Edonkey? Emule? Kademlia?
And, hell, before that there was that guy in class who for five bucks would burn you a CD with any game you wanted, which he probably got off usenet…
And of course for music there was the old double deck cassette copier…
(Personally the first software crack I remember was dismantling Monkey Island’s “dial a pirate” wheel so I could photocopy it to share with friends after copying the diskettes…)
Test Drive 3 had a pretty complicated wheel.
Your list is compromised primarily of P2P networks and a DHT?
Older methods still best methods.
I remember those copy protections. Go to page 6, line 42, word 3
Damn, I miss when games came with manuals… the anticipation when reading them while coming back home from the store…
It’s old but it’s not even close to the OG. I believe the OG is newsgroups, and after that was p2p file sharing apps like limewire and napster, and only then did torrenting become a big thing
Copying cassettes
Those were the times when my ISP, which was owned 100% by the city, had it’s own newsgroups server full of warez lol
Original method wasn’t FTP?
I’m gonna ignore non internet based methods. Here is the evolution imo
- BBS
- Usenet & warez websites
- Server client setups (Hotline etc)
- P2P without resuming (Napster etc)
- P2P W/resume & multiple sources (Kazaa, LimeWire etc)
- Torrents
- Streaming torrents
- Usenet
Edit: I’m seeing IRC a lot, not sure where it fits in this list. Assume it’s around no 2.
This is the correct list, having lived through it. BBS services in the mid-1980s were the start of Razor1911, Paradox and other distro and cracker groups. I’d edit 2 to include FTP which is what BBS evolved into with secret dropsites for new releases.
IRC is 2.5 on this list. You can group that alongside the pre-web internet services, like AOL which had slightly IRC-like chat rooms dedicated to serving warez and videos in the same way (requesting a list from a chatbot, and then requesting sequential files).
Some light history here, though like all warez-related scholarship, there’s a ton missing that you had to have seen to know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene
https://archive.org/details/b904a8eb-9c98-4bb1-bf25-3cb9d075b157/
Great list! And according to your list I’m right. BBSes aren’t internet, and usenet is a synonym for newsgroups
I’ve watched so much free anime by being bisexual
I personally just check the db0 megathread and torrent from there, sometimes I watch online because I cant be bothered to download tho
You can stream popular torrents. It can be challenging with more niche content (unless you’re on private trackers), but you’re not going to find niche content streams in the first place.
