My parents have this old 2015 MacBook Air that they wanted to use but couldn’t due to no security updates and slow running. I convinced them to let me load up fedora on it instead of junking it. They only really need it for some basic document writing, email, and web surfing so I figured this is perfect for them.
Made a bootable drive with Fedora 43 work station on it, figured gnome would be the most Apple like spin. Everything went super smooth until I realized that the WiFi drivers weren’t installed lol. I also didn’t have a Ethernet adapter for usb-a so I had to overnight it to me while my parents swore I bricked their Mac all night. Got the adapter this AM, hooked it up, installed the drivers and other necessary tweaks, and viola! This Mac has new life.
So far my parents are liking it and understanding it (even though my mom seems more excited about the snoopy wallpaper and Firefox theme, lol). Getting their emails on thunderbird was driving me crazy. Nothing to do with thunderbird, they just didn’t know their passwords smh. All in all not bad. To new Linux converts
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She’s starting off on the…right foot :) I still gotta finish her. Literally just haven’t done the right leg/foot armor
Why do people hide local ip address on fastfetch.
Overly cautious and slightly tech illiterate. I’m working on the latter though!
Gnome is closer out of the box.
But you can make KDE work almost exactly like macOS. The top bar context menu, power menu, bottom dock, left-hand window buttons, etc.
It just involves changing a bunch of settings.
I personally use Fedora plasma on my thinkpad. Love it even though I’ve done like no customizing of it. I chose gnome for my parents cause I wanted a close out of the box experience…and I also wanted to play with Fedora workstation 43 before upgrading my plasma os
KDE is genuinely incredibly flexible - you can make it into pretty much any GUI that exists. The default windows like set up is fine, but there are so many easy tweaks and changes you can make to get it however you want. I have a floating dock-like set up instead of a window-like taskbar, with application launcher, icon-only view, system tray, clock and power button.
For simple tweaks yoy can right click on most component of your KDE panels and select “Show alternatives…” to see different official versions of the same component. For example, the Application Launcher offers an alternative Application Menu with cascading menus like an old-school windows start menu, or a full screen gnome-like Application Dashboard. And there are also loads more user made tools if you right click and select “Add or Manage widgets”. Every component of the desktop is a widget and can be moved, swapped out, duplicated or replaced.
I in the process of doing that, but the most problematic thing is the keyboard shortcuts IMO. All the apps have their own default shortcuts, all defaulting to ctrl + * instead of cmd + *
Yeah KDE is incredibly flexible. You can get most of the way there downloading a Global Theme from KDE’s settings menu (such as MacOS Big Sur) - that lays out all the panels, including the top bar context menu, power menu, dock, left sided window buttons. There are then some extra visual themes such as cursors, icons that people can get separately if they really want to completely mimic a Mac.
What are the advantages?
KDE can be set up such that a ex-mac-user barely has to re-learn anything.
The difference is that while gnome looks a lot like MacOS, it isn’t exactly like it in terms of layout. An ex-mac-user will look for certain things in certain places, and won’t always find them. (such as power off/restart being up in the left corner)
Meanwhile, the customizability of the KDE desktop means you can manually put the same things in the same places as on MacOS. You can put a krunner search button in the same spot as the spotlight search button. You can make a panel that behaves like the dock, floating and shrinking to fit the number of icons in it. You can have a top panel with a power menu on the left end, and you can display a global menu to the right of it. Even the krunner keybind is the same, and spotlight people tend to pickup krunner like nothing.
Finally, the KDE settings application seems to be the most similar to the modern MacOS settings application.
The big caveat being that the user will need someone who can instruct them with setting this up, or who can set it up for them.
It’s really not that difficult with a Global Theme; anyone can do it. There are step by step tutorials on line (such as this one from howtogeek) for people who want to do it manually. The benefit of manual is if there is a major KDE update it is more likely to be completely unaffected; very rarely Global Themes can break and need their own updates.
The Mac ones are the 2nd most popular in the Global Theme store and well maintained though.
Thank you for elaborating!
My 2015 MacBook Pro is still getting updates.
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My 2017 MacBook Air stopped getting security updates a year ago, I doubt yours doesIf that’s a concern Ventura runs reasonably well via OCLP.
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Thank you for the tip but I’m very happy with Linux now 😆
OCLP?
I haven’t had to go that route yet because they’re still doing security updates for the last os that’s officially supported on it.
Really? I thought the last version for those was Monterrey and that that went EOL in 2024.
That reminds me; the other day a client walked up to the help desk I work at with a 2015 MBP still running El Capitan.
Have you had luck with oclp?
I’ve never even owned a Mac; I know about it because I’ve Hackintoshed a few times, so I’m familiar with OpenCore.
@data1701d@startrek.website @SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world can confirm, also own an 2015 MacBook Air.
Without OCLP, the latest release of macOS that a 2015 MacBook Pro will run is Monterey (5 releases ago).
The final release of Monterey was July 2024. So no, it is not getting updates anymore. Worse, many programs require a newer release of macOS to run at all.
This is a perfect system to migrate to Linux. It will run faster, be more secure, and will have totally up-to-date software.
I dual boot Linux mint on it now but I should try oclp because I love getting iMessages on it for work.
I still run Monterey on my MBP 2015 and haven’t found anything that doesn’t work for me.
I tried using newer OSs via OCLP but they were notably less performant and I seem to dislike most of the design changes Apple is making of late (they keep hiding shit I use all the time)
That hardware still has plenty of power for basic use. It should be good for another 10 years running Linux.
I’m confused. How did you save your parent’s Masters in Business Administration? /s
(Sorry. I can’t help but think that every time someone acronym’s Macbook Air.)
Webcamera also should not work btw, cause it need firmware which is not part of linux-firmware package also webcamera need color correction files ,I wrote 2 scripts which fix it,if u need webcamera let me know
Oh that would be great if you could. I’d appreciate it!
First one
#!/usr/bin/env bash set -euo pipefail URL="https://updates.cdn-apple.com/2019/cert/041-88431-20191011-e7ee7d98-2878-4cd9-bc0a-d98b3a1e24b1/OSXUpd10.11.5.dmg" RANGE=204909802-207733123 OSX_DRV="AppleCameraInterface" OSX_DRV_DIR="System/Library/Extensions/AppleCameraInterface.kext/Contents/MacOS" FILE="$OSX_DRV_DIR/$OSX_DRV" DRV_HASH="f56e68a880b65767335071531a1c75f3cfd4958adc6d871adf8dbf3b788e8ee1" FW_HASH="e3e6034a67dfdaa27672dd547698bbc5b33f47f1fc7f5572a2fb68ea09d32d3d" OFFSET=81920 SIZE=603715 WORKDIR=$(mktemp -d) cd "$WORKDIR" echo "Downloading macOS driver..." curl -k -L -r "$RANGE" "$URL" | xzcat -qq -Q | cpio --format odc -i -d "./$FILE" &> /dev/null || true mv "$FILE" . echo "Extracting firmware..." dd bs=1 skip=$OFFSET count=$SIZE if=./$OSX_DRV of=./firmware.bin.gz &> /dev/null gunzip ./firmware.bin.gz echo "$DRV_HASH $OSX_DRV" > firmware.sha256 echo "$FW_HASH firmware.bin" >> firmware.sha256 sha256sum -c firmware.sha256 TARGET_DIR="/lib/firmware/facetimehd" echo "Installing firmware to $TARGET_DIR (requires sudo)..." sudo mkdir -p "$TARGET_DIR" sudo cp firmware.bin "$TARGET_DIR/" echo "Done. Firmware installed."and second
#!/bin/bash set -e BOOTCAMP_ZIP_URL="https://download.info.apple.com/Mac_OS_X/031-30890-20150812-ea191174-4130-11e5-a125-930911ba098f/bootcamp5.1.5769.zip" TMPDIR=$(mktemp -d) FIRMWARE_DIR="/lib/firmware/facetimehd" DAT_FILES=( "9112_01XX.dat:1663920:33060:479ae9b2b7ab018d63843d777a3886d1" "1771_01XX.dat:1644880:19040:a1831db76ebd83e45a016f8c94039406" "1871_01XX.dat:1606800:19040:017996a51c95c6e11bc62683ad1f356b" "1874_01XX.dat:1625840:19040:3c3cdc590e628fe3d472472ca4d74357" ) for cmd in unzip unrar dd md5sum curl; do if ! command -v $cmd &> /dev/null; then echo "Missing required command: $cmd" exit 1 fi done cd "$TMPDIR" echo "Downloading Boot Camp Support Software..." curl -L -o bootcamp.zip "$BOOTCAMP_ZIP_URL" echo "Extracting Boot Camp package..." unzip bootcamp.zip cd BootCamp/Drivers/Apple/ echo "Extracting AppleCamera64.exe..." unrar x AppleCamera64.exe if [[ ! -f "AppleCamera.sys" ]]; then echo "AppleCamera.sys not found!" exit 1 fi cd "$TMPDIR" echo "Extracting calibration data..." for entry in "${DAT_FILES[@]}"; do IFS=":" read -r filename skip count expected_md5 <<< "$entry" echo "Creating $filename..." dd bs=1 skip="$skip" count="$count" if=BootCamp/Drivers/Apple/AppleCamera.sys of="$filename" status=none actual_md5=$(md5sum "$filename" | awk '{print $1}') if [[ "$actual_md5" != "$expected_md5" ]]; then echo "Checksum mismatch for $filename (expected $expected_md5, got $actual_md5)" exit 1 fi done echo "Copying .dat files to firmware directory..." sudo mkdir -p "$FIRMWARE_DIR" sudo cp *.dat "$FIRMWARE_DIR" echo "Reloading facetimehd module..." sudo modprobe -r facetimehd || true sudo modprobe facetimehd echo "Done. Please Reboot ."
I got a laugh at the end as I have also experienced that the hardest part about converting parents to Linux is them not knowing their passwords.
Mine didn’t want to migrate and I had to build them a new PC with Win11 (their old one was barely able to run win 10 and had already some hardware problems, so a new one was on my bucket list for a while) - but… yeah the most time was spent tracking down all these passwords and accounts they were constantly using without knowing which email address and which password was used for the account…
Oh the pain. You should’ve heard the accusations of someone else changing their passwords…somehow. Yet they’ll both bring up me bricking the fam computer dl linkin park from limewire…like 20+ years ago lol
This. Migrating my father to Bluefin was absolutely eventless. Except the 8 hours of fighting over passwords. Because I’m supposed to know all his passwords, apparently.
If only my mom was also open minded about switching to Linux.
Offering her IT assistance wasn’t enough…
Luckily my mom is pretty open minded. Throw snoopy on it and she’ll like it lol
Just tell her it’s a free version of MacOS.
I like the snoopy wallpaper as well. I’m glad your parents seem to enjoy it (the wallpaper and the computer lol).
Also, why is there a toothbrush on the right?
Ah, that’s my gunpla toothbrush. I build Japanese model kits and the toothbrush is great for getting dust and plastic residue out of paneling and corners
Where did you got wifi drivers? From the distro repo? Why didn’t you used a flash drive to pass them w/o an adapter?
Right? That was my first thought.
Sneakernet ftw
I enabled the free and non free repos and entered
sudo dnf in broadcom-wl
That got everything working. I used the Ethernet method cause I am a noob and was not aware of using a flash drive until just now lol. Guess I got something else to learn
You can also just hook your phone up via usb and enable usb tethering, allowing the PC to use wifi or mobile broadband via the phone.
Someone told me that too, lol. I’m learning all sorts today. Oh well. At least now I have Ethernet adapters for every sort of port
No one is born knowing this stuff; everyone learns it somewhere. But omg it’s still frustrating after you spend days taking the difficult route and someone says “oh you could have just done this in 2 mins”. My sympathy to you! :D But GG on getting your parents onto Linux and saving them from wasting money on a new laptop!











